Fauci and Rand Paul Spar discuss the origin of COVID again, Wuhan laboratory


Director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases. Anthony Fauci And senator LandPaul After the Republicans of Kentucky accused the country’s leading infectious disease experts of lying to them, the head-to-head confrontation once again began on the origin of the coronavirus. Congress About the leakage theory of Wuhan laboratory.

On a tuesday Senate At the hearing, Rand questioned Fauci in a statement he issued earlier, in which doctors testified that the National Institutes of Health (NIH) under Fauci’s supervision had never funded gain-of-function research.

Functional gain research involves changing organisms or diseases as a way to increase infectivity so that scientists can better predict infectious diseases and develop vaccines.

“You said on May 11 that NIH has never and has not funded the acquisition of function research of the Wuhan Institute of Virology, and the acquisition of function research was completely completed by Dr. Shi at the Wuhan Research Institute. [Zhengli] And funded by NIH,” Paul said.

The senator said that in Shi’s research, she said she received NIH funding because her work involves combining genetic information of various coronaviruses that only infect animals to test the ability to transmit in humans.

Fauci said: “Senator Paul, I have never lied before Congress, and I will not retract that sentence.” “The paper you are referring to was judged by qualified employees up and down the chain as having no function.”

When Dr. Anthony Fauci testified at the Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee hearing in Washington, DC on July 20, 2021, he debated with Senator Rand Paul about the origin of the coronavirus pandemic.
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When Paul tried to interrupt Fauci, the NIAID director raised his voice and instructed the senator to “let me finish.”

“Senator Paul, frankly, you don’t know what you’re talking about, I want to say formally: you don’t know what you’re talking about,” Fauci said, and then Paul interrupted him, arguing that the experiment in the study fits the function. Get the definition of the study.

Paul said: “This is a dance, and you are dancing around it because you are trying to hide the responsibility for the 4 million deaths of the pandemic worldwide.”

In response, Fauci told him, “If your point of view is that the Wuhan grant funded by the Ecological Health Sub-award has created SARS-CoV-2-this is what you get [at].”

He continued: “I completely hate the lies you are spreading now, Senator, because if you look at the virus used in the experiment given in our annual report published in the literature, it is molecularly impossible… .Causes SARS-CoV-2.”

Paul interrupted Fauci again, saying that he did not claim that the experiment caused the coronavirus pandemic, but that it involved acquisition of functionality research funded by Fauci’s agency.

Fauci pointed to Paul and concluded: “You are implying that what we do is responsible for the death of individuals. I am totally opposed to this. If anyone is lying here, Senator, it is you.”

The two have long been arguing about the origin of the coronavirus pandemic. Fauci said he still believes that the natural origin theory is the most likely, while Paul supports the Wuhan laboratory leak hypothesis.

As early as May, Paul told Fauci that to figure out the origin of the pandemic, he said: “The U.S. government should admit that the Wuhan Institute of Virology is experimenting to enhance the ability of the coronavirus to infect humans.”

However, Fauci has repeatedly refuted Paul’s claims, saying that NIH has never funded gain-of-function research. Although he is open to considering all the origins of the virus, he believes that COVID-19 is likely to be the result of natural evolution.

“I keep an open mind and say that we should consider all possibilities until we finally prove a possibility,” Fauci told CNNSaturday is Jim Acosta. “However, together with many highly qualified vaccinologists and virologists (including a recent paper published by 21 internationally renowned virologists and evolutionary biologists from all over the world), I have shown that despite our open mind, But it may happen because they, for example, laboratory leaks, the most likely explanation is the natural evolution from animal hosts to humans.”

When Fauci made the above remarks, senior officials in the Biden administration changed their tone, suggesting that the Wuhan laboratory theory may be credible-different from a year ago Democratic Party He publicly questioned this hypothesis, saying that there was no real evidence leaked by the laboratory.

Although Fauci’s e-mails released last month insisted that there was little evidence that the virus came from a laboratory, these letters raised questions about how quickly American scientists ruled out the possibility of leakage.

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