Friday, September 21, 2007

Confessions of a Failed Athiest

Alongside Hitchens's book, I've also been reading 'In God We Doubt: Confessions of a Failed Atheist' by John Humphrys, a broadcaster and journalist for the BBC.

Humphry's is probably best described as someone who deeply wants to believe in a God, but find himself unable to reconcile the idea of a loving being with the indifferent and often cruel world around him.

In an attempt to learn more about how others deal with this issue, he set up a series of interviews with religious leaders (the Archbishop of Canterbury, Dr Rowan Williams; Professor Tariq Ramadan, Muslim academic and author; and Sir Jonathan Sacks, Chief Rabbi) in which he essentially challenged them to make him believe.

While none of the three were successful, the interviews, along with Humphrey's own experiences form the basis of this book.

As noted above, Humphry's is basically an agnostic theist. He wants there to be a God and rejects conventional evolutionary explanations for morality in favour of something more transcendent, relying on a slightly confused version of CS Lewis's argument from morality to back this up (apparently the best evidence for an unchanging moral law is that morality changes). It's a generally emotional position, as he explains towards the end of the book (referring back to a news story at the time of writing):

an image of a man stained with the blood his wife, carrying his own children downstairs one at a time to slaughter them, is infinitely more powerful than any number of profound doctrines produced by any number of brilliant theologians. The cry of a child resonates more than the elegant argument of a learned man.

This is one of the more frustrating aspects of the book (the other being his mischaracterisation of atheism), where he supports or rejects arguments he does so largely on the basis of what “feels” right to him.

It's perhaps a little much to expect any profound philosophical or theological statements from, as he describes himself, a layman. Where the book does succeed however is in portraying the nature of religious belief in the UK. We have not only Humphry's beliefs, but also the opinions of three important religious figures and – most interestingly – the response of the general public to the series. The 'Letters' section of the book was the one I found most interesting. As Humphry's notes, there are a few explaining why he's condemned to Hell for his doubts, but most are from people struggling with their own belief and disbelief, offering him sympathy and accounts of their own religious “awakenings”. Most, when trying to tackle the questions raised by Humphry's, offered up exactly the same response as the religious leaders: We may not know the answers, but it's still important to believe.

This for Humphry's is simply not enough. Sadly, he seems caught between a rock and a hard place – he can't accept atheism but can't believe in God either. I suspect he's not alone.

For the most part I found myself sympathetic to his arguments. It's hard to look at the day-to-day supernatural beliefs held by a large number of people as a real problem, let alone a threat. But his plea for moderate religion to be left alone and spared intellectual criticism is a troubling one. The average C of E member may be unlikely to blow themselves up, but it seems impossible to argue against those who do without tackling the beliefs that moderates and extremists have in common. Nor is the idea of treating irrationalism with respect particularly appealing. After all, as the saying goes, the sleep of reason produces monsters – where and how do we draw the line between a belief being merely comforting and being dangerous?

Nobody should begrudge people their comforting beliefs, and there's a time and a place for argument, but the likes of 'The God Delusion' and its ideological stable-mates aren't just to be tolerated, they need to be encouraged in their defence of rationality, it's one of the most useful tools the human race has discovered.

21 comments:

Anonymous said...

Annoyingly, he calls himself John Humphrys.

Matt M said...

Oops. Thanks for pointing that out.

Just Thinking said...

Matt,

I admire you for your willingness to keep thinking. Although, I'm finding that those of us who think cannot help but keep thinking and searching. The brain has a mind of its own. ;) But even so, how do you read so much and write about what you're reading? Not only am I a slow reader, it takes so much effort for me just to write this little comment. (with my obsessive edit, re-edit thing) But thank you, because you can teach me what you read and I don't have to read it myself. ;)

"We may not know the answers, but it's still important to believe."

That's an absolute nonsense. Do people really say that? Well, I guess I've heard it too. That's like a parent telling a child, "you have to because I said so." I never bought into that either. It may bring about a behavior out of fear, but it does not change the child's heart.

Matt M said...

Thanks, JT.

how do you read so much and write about what you're reading?

I have a degree in English - about the only skill those three years of studying left me with is the ability to read quickly and form an opinion on it.

(of course, it helps that these books were on subjects we've been discussing over at ISOHP, so I had a number of pre-formed opinions to fall back on.)

Do people really say that?

In various ways, yes. Though I think it's said more in hope than as a threat: If you believe you might eventually get the answers to the questions that plague you.

Just Thinking said...

Matt,

Sometimes you confuse me as to whether you really are an unbeliever. ;-)

Anonymous said...

"The average C of E member would be unlikely to blow himself up"

Why would he do that when Britain has a professional army to destroy foreigners, with its teams of padres to assure them that they're doing the right thing? If Islamists were supported by more developed economies, they would blow us away with perfect sangfroid, with fanaticism not on display.

Matt M said...

Anon,

Given that most of the prominent suicide bombers have been relatively well off, the "they're only murderous psychopaths because they're poor" line of argument is incredibly weak.

Anonymous said...

"they're only murderous psychopaths because they're poor" line of argument is incredibly weak. Matt Murrell

The poverty referred to was not that of the individual, but of the 'country'. You, personally, may be relatively rich (compared to the dollar a day poor in poor countries) but it is not your personal net worth which determines the UK's ability to muster hi-tech means of slaughter against Afghans,Iraqis and others.

You are not a 'murderous psychopath', but you have professionals to kill on your behalf, on a greater scale, potentially an immensely greater scale, than individuals from poor states.

Matt M said...

The poverty referred to was not that of the individual, but of the 'country'.

The problem with this hypothesis is that there's little correlation between per capita GDP and the amount of suicide bombers a country produces.

Besides, it's difficult to see how suicide bombers in countries like Iraq believe blowing up queues of people looking for work and marketplaces will improve the economic standing of the country.

Anonymous said...

Matt,

You notice it was 'country' in inverted commas. Suicide bombing is a weapon of the poor. The Taleban, Hamas,the Iraqi opposition are poor in resources.

Matt M said...

Well... in terrorist terms, groups like Hamas and Al-Qaeda (groups which seem to use suicide-bombing the most) are actually pretty well off - with wealthy supporters in countries like Saudi Arabia and Iran. Plenty of other small scale groups seem to have got by without it.

Looking at Iraq, when it comes to targeting coalition forces, groups tend to prefer devices such as IEDs, as I imagine it's difficult to get close enough to troops for a suicide-bomber to be effective. Where they tend to be used in is targeting civilians - which makes it hard to see them as a protest for economic reform.

Anonymous said...

"groups like Hamas and Al-Qaeda (groups which seem to use suicide-bombing the most) are actually pretty well off"

Not 'well-off' enough to have thousands of nuclear warheads. Not well-off enough to have a single tank, helicopter or plane. The reason for using primitive weaponry, like the suicide bomb, is very obviously the lack of anything 'better'.

Matt M said...

Not well-off enough to have a single tank, helicopter or plane.

I think they probably are... there just wouldn't be much point.

The reason for using primitive weaponry, like the suicide bomb, is very obviously the lack of anything 'better'.

Just as with countries though, there's no correlation between the economic status of a terrorist group and its tendency to use suicide-bombers.

Anonymous said...

Matt,

I really don't think the Palestinian resistance to Israeli occupation leafs through a range of options from nuclear attack through multi-billion dollar coventional means and finally settles on suicide attacks and dud Khassam rockets for some unintelligible love of masochistic impotence. My guess is that they don't have the resources to do any 'better'. They are poverty-stricken.

But maybe you have an intimate knowledge of the military budget of Hamas and know that they are capable of matching Israel.

Matt M said...

How they compare with Israel is irrelevant - my point is that there's no correlation between economic standing and willingness to use suicide-bombers.

With financial backers in countries like Saudi Arabia, Al-Qaeda - one of the most prominent groups to utilise the tactic - are probably one of the best funded.

Anonymous said...

The military budget of Israel is $7.7 billion dollars. Israel is backed by the United States with a $500 billion military budget.

Palestine has no army, airforce or navy and zero military budget. For this very obvious reason, opposition forces can only use the cheapest means of armed force against Israel.

Matt M said...

How Hamas compares with Israel is beside the point, it's how it compares to other terrorist groups that's important - and there are many which, despite lacking strong financial backers - don't resort to suicide-bombing.

This, along with the statements of suicide-bombers and those around them, tends to suggest that there are other factors at work - with religion being an important one.

(This isn't to say that religion is the sole motivation, but it seems pretty close).

Ario said...

I hope you don't mind me chipping in. But leaving the hot potato of religion aside, isn't the problem that potential suicide bombers move in an environment in which such an act is socially acceptable *and* in some interpretations of the prevailing ideology encouraged?

The other thing that springs to mind is that it's exactly that 'primitiveness' - or better: that act of extreme nihilism - that makes the suicide bomb such a powerful weapon. Not only is it unpredictable, when deployed successfully its lasting effects are extreme terror among the enemy population.

It's a weapon of choice - not one originating in economic and political despair. Otherwise it would - arguably - have been used a lot more in history [Native Americans against Europeans anyone?].

Anonymous said...

The means used by the Palestinian resistance movements are commensurate with their resources. I'm sure they'd have no objection to using guided missiles, million dollar planes, tank battalions and all the military equipment that Israel can use. They use more primitive means because that's what they have available.

Simple point. The military budget of Israel is 7.7 billion. What is the military budget of the Palestinian resistance movements?

Matt M said...

As Ario points out, suicide-bombers are clearly "weapons" of choice rather than necessity - as plenty of lesser funded groups don't use them.

Their attraction lies, again as Ario points out, in the psychological affect: Each suicide-bomber is a statement that the group (or at least those they recruit for these acts) values nothing - including their own lives - more than victory.

That kind of attitude is extremely difficult to achieve without religion.

Would groups like Hamas still use them if they had a budget on a par with a country like Israel? Probably. It didn't stop the Japanese during World War 2.

Anonymous said...

Matt,
You're really giving Suicide Bombing Inc the hard sell. Do you have shares?

You could save the American taxpayer billions that they pay to Israel. Why bother with the latest military technology at vast expense, when Israel could deploy its religious fanatics in a suicide bomb playoff with the Palestinians?

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